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а что там нада выбрать мини dump или полны ??

#190194   | 01.03.10 14:59
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remboja, начните с малого ))))

#190195   | 01.03.10 15:02
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вот сёдня поймал ктонит знает что ето ?

A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to prevent damage
to your computer.

The problem seems to be caused by the following file: ntoskrnl.exe

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

If this is the first time you've seen this stop error screen,
restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow
these steps:

Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed.
If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer
for any Windows updates you might need.

If problems continue, disable or remove any newly installed hardware
or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing.
If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components, restart
your computer, press F8 to select Advanced Startup Options, and then
select Safe Mode.

Technical Information:

*** STOP: 0x10000050 (0x91800000, 0x00000001, 0x82876bc0, 0x00000000)

*** ntoskrnl.exe - Address 0x82876bc0 base at 0x82837000 DateStamp 0x4b1e090a

#190434   | 07.03.10 12:29
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BSOD-ы 0x00000050 и 0x10000050
ошибка возникает очень часто в случае нестабильной работы памяти либо повреждения файловой системы раздела, где лежит файл подкачки.

Память может работать нестабильно например в слеюдущих случаях:
1) Битая сама по себе.
2) Имеет место кривой разгон.
3) Недостаточный уровень питания памяти.
4) Неверно выставленные задержки памяти.
5) Перегрев чипсета.
6) Битый чипсет.
7) Некачественное питание.

Файловая система может быть повреждена из-за:
1) Некачественного питания ЖД.
2) Битого интерфейса ЖД.
3) Перегрева контроллера.
4) Физического повреждения поверхности ЖД, ошибок в служебной информации.
5) Отключения питания ЖД при наличие открытых файлов и работой с ними.

Т.е. прежде всего Вам нужно проверить стабильность работы памяти, и файловую систему нужного раздела

#190435   | 07.03.10 12:50
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охо знать бы как эт всё сделать
да и такой вылет уменя оч редкий
сёдно врубил комп и через минутки 3 этот Бсод

#190436   | 07.03.10 13:05
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remboja,
Что б исключить что-то апаратное можно Everest тест стабильности системы хотя бы на 40-60мин., а потом уже с ПО разбираться.

#190437   | 07.03.10 13:10
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Подскажите в чем косяк?
При работе в W7 pro х64 иногда вылетает синий экран из-за ntoskrnl.exe.
Винда полностью обновлена,dr.web стоит, вирусов нет ( до этого стоял касперыч и нод32)

#192856   | 04.06.10 09:18
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RAZORBLADE, с другими антивирусами тоже вылетал бсод? У меня раньше стоял нод32 4 версии, так с ним я за пол года пользования бета версиями семёрки ни разу не словил бсод. А у знакомого с др. вебом бсоды были (хотя я не смотрел, из-за чего).

#192858   | 04.06.10 11:36
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Johny-electric,
Так ntoskrnl.exe. системный файл. Он к антивирусам не относится.

#192860   | 04.06.10 13:39
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А номер БСОДА и конфигурацию компа дайте пожалуйста?

#192861   | 04.06.10 13:48
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RAZORBLADE,
что за?

ntoskrnl.exe. системный файл


Это не просто системный файл. Это ядро системы.
При вылете в синий экран в папке C://Windows/Minidump должны образовываться файл с описанием ошибки. Выложите его сюда, ну или сам файл.

#192865   | 04.06.10 16:30
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Symbol search path is: *** Invalid ***
****************************************************************************
* Symbol loading may be unreliable without a symbol search path. *
* Use .symfix to have the debugger choose a symbol path. *
* After setting your symbol path, use .reload to refresh symbol locations. *
****************************************************************************
Executable search path is:
*********************************************************************
* Symbols can not be loaded because symbol path is not initialized. *
* *
* The Symbol Path can be set by: *
* using the _NT_SYMBOL_PATH environment variable. *
* using the -y <symbol_path> argument when starting the debugger. *
* using .sympath and .sympath+ *
*********************************************************************
Unable to load image \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe, Win32 error 2
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntoskrnl.exe
Windows Vista Kernel Version 7600 MP (8 procs) Free x64
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
Built by: 7600.16539.amd64fre.win7_gdr.100226-1909
Kernel base = 0xfffff800`02c63000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`02ea0e50
Debug session time: Mon Jun 7 09:13:22.502 2010 (GMT+4)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:00:09.517
*********************************************************************
* Symbols can not be loaded because symbol path is not initialized. *
* *
* The Symbol Path can be set by: *
* using the _NT_SYMBOL_PATH environment variable. *
* using the -y <symbol_path> argument when starting the debugger. *
* using .sympath and .sympath+ *
*********************************************************************
Unable to load image \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe, Win32 error 2
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntoskrnl.exe
Loading Kernel Symbols
.......................................................
Loading User Symbols
*******************************************************************************
* *
* Bugcheck Analysis *
* *
*******************************************************************************

Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck 1E, {0, 0, 0, 0}

***** Kernel symbols are WRONG. Please fix symbols to do analysis.

***** Kernel symbols are WRONG. Please fix symbols to do analysis.

*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for hal.dll
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for hal.dll
Unable to load image \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Ntfs.sys, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for Ntfs.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for Ntfs.sys
Probably caused by : ntoskrnl.exe ( nt+705d0 )

#192935   | 08.06.10 23:25
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icrosoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.6.0007.5
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Loading Dump File [C:\Windows\Minidump\060310-24429-01.dmp]
Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available

Symbol search path is: *** Invalid ***
****************************************************************************
* Symbol loading may be unreliable without a symbol search path. *
* Use .symfix to have the debugger choose a symbol path. *
* After setting your symbol path, use .reload to refresh symbol locations. *
****************************************************************************
Executable search path is:
*********************************************************************
* Symbols can not be loaded because symbol path is not initialized. *
* *
* The Symbol Path can be set by: *
* using the _NT_SYMBOL_PATH environment variable. *
* using the -y <symbol_path> argument when starting the debugger. *
* using .sympath and .sympath+ *
*********************************************************************
Unable to load image \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntoskrnl.exe
Windows Vista Kernel Version 7600 MP (8 procs) Free x64
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
Built by: 7600.16539.amd64fre.win7_gdr.100226-1909
Kernel base = 0xfffff800`02a17000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`02c54e50
Debug session time: Thu Jun 3 21:30:17.702 2010 (GMT+4)
System Uptime: 0 days 1:36:59.716
*********************************************************************
* Symbols can not be loaded because symbol path is not initialized. *
* *
* The Symbol Path can be set by: *
* using the _NT_SYMBOL_PATH environment variable. *
* using the -y <symbol_path> argument when starting the debugger. *
* using .sympath and .sympath+ *
*********************************************************************
Unable to load image \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntoskrnl.exe
Loading Kernel Symbols
............................................................................................................................................................
Loading User Symbols
Loading unloaded module list
......
Unable to load image \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\atikmdag.sys, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for atikmdag.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for atikmdag.sys
*******************************************************************************
* *
* Bugcheck Analysis *
* *
*******************************************************************************

Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck 1000007E, {ffffffffc0000005, fffff88005a2aa74, fffff880065ee4c8, fffff880065edd30}

***** Kernel symbols are WRONG. Please fix symbols to do analysis.

***** Kernel symbols are WRONG. Please fix symbols to do analysis.

*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
Unable to load image \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\atikmpag.sys, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for atikmpag.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for atikmpag.sys
Unable to load image \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\dxgkrnl.sys, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for dxgkrnl.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for dxgkrnl.sys
Unable to load image \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\dxgmms1.sys, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for dxgmms1.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for dxgmms1.sys
Probably caused by : atikmdag.sys ( atikmdag+372a74 )

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#192936   | 08.06.10 23:27
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RAZORBLADE, такие большие тексты не мешало бы скрыть спойлером. Второй бсод был из-за драйвера ATI.

Probably caused by : atikmdag.sys

Ищите проблему в перегреве видюхи, недостатке питания, аппаратной проблеме видеокарты, либо просто ошибке в драйвере (или программе, использующей видеокарту в момент бсода).

#192939   | 08.06.10 23:53
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Johny-electric,
c АТИ - это глюк драйверов скорее всего.. номеня достает этот .Сейчас пока писал текст, опять был синий экран


Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.6.0007.5
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Loading Dump File [C:\Windows\Minidump\060910-32058-01.dmp]
Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available

Symbol search path is: *** Invalid ***
****************************************************************************
* Symbol loading may be unreliable without a symbol search path. *
* Use .symfix to have the debugger choose a symbol path. *
* After setting your symbol path, use .reload to refresh symbol locations. *
****************************************************************************
Executable search path is:
*********************************************************************
* Symbols can not be loaded because symbol path is not initialized. *
* *
* The Symbol Path can be set by: *
* using the _NT_SYMBOL_PATH environment variable. *
* using the -y <symbol_path> argument when starting the debugger. *
* using .sympath and .sympath+ *
*********************************************************************
Unable to load image \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntoskrnl.exe
Windows Vista Kernel Version 7600 MP (8 procs) Free x64
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
Built by: 7600.16539.amd64fre.win7_gdr.100226-1909
Kernel base = 0xfffff800`02e5a000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`03097e50
Debug session time: Wed Jun 9 07:08:18.436 2010 (GMT+4)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:03:30.451
*********************************************************************
* Symbols can not be loaded because symbol path is not initialized. *
* *
* The Symbol Path can be set by: *
* using the _NT_SYMBOL_PATH environment variable. *
* using the -y <symbol_path> argument when starting the debugger. *
* using .sympath and .sympath+ *
*********************************************************************
Unable to load image \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntoskrnl.exe
Loading Kernel Symbols
.............................................................................................................................................................
Loading User Symbols
Loading unloaded module list
....
*******************************************************************************
* *
* Bugcheck Analysis *
* *
*******************************************************************************

Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck 1E, {ffffffffc0000005, fffff8800a69bc40, 0, 0}

***** Kernel symbols are WRONG. Please fix symbols to do analysis.

***** Kernel symbols are WRONG. Please fix symbols to do analysis.

*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
*************************************************************************
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for hal.dll
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for hal.dll
Unable to load image \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nwifi.sys, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for nwifi.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for nwifi.sys
Unable to load image \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\NDIS.SYS, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for NDIS.SYS
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for NDIS.SYS
Probably caused by : ntoskrnl.exe ( nt+70600 )

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